Xmas Mod For £60

QUOTE(troy45 @ 4 Dec 2009, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>They don't make that much improvement to be honest, best to spend the cash elsewhere I'd say.

I havent got them myself mate, but I have also heard off someone else that they do make a difference.

QUOTE(coolkrio @ 4 Dec 2009, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm trying to think of something i could get/want for the car for christmas with a £60 limit.

Im thinking Vibratechnics mount.

Any other ideas?

hmmmmmm

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QUOTE(****** @ 5 Dec 2009, 10:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>braided hoses will def make an improvement over standard.
Nope! As I found out after spending the money and several hours fitting a set, my mate then told me he knew that'd be the case but didn't want to say anything and upset me

Bulb set sounds a good idea to me, maybe doing the clear rear foglight mod too - that's maybe £30. Or K&N Panel filter depending if you're still using the standard airbox etc? Or the RS Plugs?

how about a surprise? give me the money and your address and i,ll send you something nice i,m sure theres something in my shed i could post to you

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QUOTE(troy45 @ 5 Dec 2009, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Nope! As I found out after spending the money and several hours fitting a set, my mate then told me he knew that'd be the case but didn't want to say anything and upset me

Bulb set sounds a good idea to me, maybe doing the clear rear foglight mod too - that's maybe £30. Or K&N Panel filter depending if you're still using the standard airbox etc? Or the RS Plugs?

can you explain why they offer no improvement over standard on the st please? - not being ***** im genuinely interested as on every other car they seem to be an improvement. also why would people like AP add braided hoses to the sets people buy if they werent any better?

QUOTE(SpacemanST @ 5 Dec 2009, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>they prob won`t feel any diff the big improvement comes when you track the car as the braided lines and better fluid mean you can maintain brake feel longer.
Yup, absolutely no difference in pedal feel on mine after I'd fitted new hoses and bled new DOT 5.1 fluid through the whole system too. And this wasn't a surprise to my mate who's played with cossies and RS turbo's for way too long. Don't know all the reasons but part of has to be the spec of the standard hoses (reinforced rubber etc) and the fact that maybe 75% or more of the brake system is already hard metal pipes and with the durability specs of the rubber pipes they fit oem the proof of the pudding is that the improvements to pedal feel are minimal. Maybe the set-up of a big servo booster etc comes into play too. I know braided hoses make a big improvement on bikes but these are replacing the whole lines rather than a small percentage like on the ST. Plus a set of 4 1-pot calipers slide mounted on rubber bushes will always have an inherent squidginess in the braking feel.

Companies like AP will supply braided hoses with their kits because they probably do give an improvement under very extreme or track conditions, can be done in nice colours, are tougher for wear and tear if they're flapping about against things if not secured with rubber grommets ect like oem ones, and compliment the feel you get once you've gone to a proper fixed 4-pot or 6-pot set of brakes. Plus before lines with swaged ends became more popular it was quite straight forward to make up custom sets of lines with different lengths, ends etc then just nip up the threaded banjo fittings to finish off.

I know what lever feel is achievable with a set of radially mounted 4-pots, braided lines and a World Superbike spec master cylinder on the bike I just sold but there's more to change on a standard ST before you'd get anywhere near as a comparison.

Apologies for going of topic, I'm out of ideas now for ST Xmas pressies

Braided hoses only make a difference if your giving the car some hammer around a track. Never used them on a car to be honnest but on motorbikes i have always changed them. After only a couple of laps on a bike standard brakes feel spongy and start to fade. But perhaps thats just me being a legend on two wheels

QUOTE(troy45 @ 5 Dec 2009, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Nope! As I found out after spending the money and several hours fitting a set, my mate then told me he knew that'd be the case but didn't want to say anything and upset me

Bulb set sounds a good idea to me, maybe doing the clear rear foglight mod too - that's maybe £30. Or K&N Panel filter depending if you're still using the standard airbox etc? Or the RS Plugs?

I have a clear foglight with red bulb and K+N element (done 500 miles) and ecu spacer £60 posted or £50 collected

there pressie sorted