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I am an avid fast ford fan, love all things ford since I was 17, xr3's, 9 Rs turbos, escort and fiesta, mk1 focus Rs and 2 Focus St 225's. I bought a 56 plate focus st 2 at the end of 2010 From a dealer and once home it started to mis fire, sent back to dealer and it was diagnosed as cracked liner on bores 2 and 3. They fitted another low Miles 2nd hand engine. Great it was fixed. But I didn't have the same feeling about the car any longer, was completely standard full history example with someone else's engine and turbo in it. So I sold it on and thought I'm done with fords for a while. Bought an a3 a line. Great car but didn't have the fun factor my ST had. So 2 years on I bought another. This time an 07 ST2 with some nice mods, all the stuff I would fit, bluefin sports cat, down pipe, CAIS etc. what's the chances of having another one with the same heat soak mis fire And steam out the back!!!!! Since taken the car back and re
Collected my S3. Now am I gluten for punishment as I still want one as I just love the 5 pot and the car it's self, I still get a fast ford the mrs likes them and the toddler goes in the back just fine. Perfect. But 2 with head gasket / liner issues is bad
Luck right? Do the later cars suffer just as bad have ford changed anything on say an 09 car or are they all the same.
I still want one but need some more
Buying advice, thanks in advance

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Get a later one (facelift) if possible, and JamSport now do a block mod (for around £900-1000) to prevent cracking liners.
 

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Also just to add, both were 70k cars as my budget didn't stretch past 7k. But then German cars on have owned since have been high ish with no issues at all, my current S3 has 54,000 and is lovely but it's not an st. Do I need to spend say 9/10 to get a good one?

Get a later one (facelift) if possible, and JamSport now do a block mod (for around £900-1000) to prevent cracking liners.
Do the later ones not suffer with this issue then?
 

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Early ones seem to be pretty tough.

On the grand scheme of things, it isn't as widespread as people think. There's alot of ST's about.

Mine cracked two bores. 16k miles and 2008 pre-facelift.
 

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Also just to add, both were 70k cars as my budget didn't stretch past 7k. But then German cars on have owned since have been high ish with no issues at all, my current S3 has 54,000 and is lovely but it's not an st. Do I need to spend say 9/10 to get a good one?

Do the later ones not suffer with this issue then?
The later ones are "believed" to be stronger. But I think it's just that they tend to have done less miles.
 

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That is incredibly unlucky! Get another and get the liners sorted or the RS lump


Early ones seem to be pretty tough.

On the grand scheme of things, it isn't as widespread as people think. There's alot of ST's about.

Mine cracked two bores. 16k miles and 2008 pre-facelift.
Mines a 2008 prefacelift on 50k and is fine so far touch wood!
 

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Yea but that's a 1000 quid plus a long journey for a little peace of mind. I always warm up cool down correctly as I am used to having turbo fords. My focus Rs never missed a beat was as strong as an ox. Not sure what to do to be honest.
 

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Yea but that's a 1000 quid plus a long journey for a little peace of mind. I always warm up cool down correctly as I am used to having turbo fords. My focus Rs never missed a beat was as strong as an ox. Not sure what to do to be honest.
£1000 that you could budget into your costs surely?
Be a shame to have problems with a third ST!
 

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I'm going to get a block mod fairly soon.
I'm just waiting for Dreamscience to release details of theirs, the Jamsport deal at 750 currently running is tempting, just tell us what it is! Lol.

Once Dreamscience release details and price I'm going to make a decision on which way to go, my cars pushing 70k miles now and I've decided i want piece of mind and with the price dropping I can justify it to myself.
 

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Get a later one (facelift) if possible, and JamSport now do a block mod (for around £900-1000) to prevent cracking liners.
jamsport are doing a offer on the block mod at £750 at the mo,this is a great price for a great mod
 

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I personally think a lot of it is mapping. Stock is lean as. Many maps overboost down low and overload the bottom end of the engine. Run a decent map that is more linear and sympathetic to the drivetrain and don't thrash it when cold and it should be fine. There will of course be the odd weak engine.
My 07 has 185,000 Kilometres on it, still powers well past 6000 revs and goes hard. Original engine and turbo still.
I was worried I might have a liner issue, but it turns out my coolant hoses are perishing and the rubber is discolouring my radiator expansion tank. New silicone hoses on the way.

With so many Kilometres on the car, no point doing a block mod, but if the DS one is ok I'd get it for the next engine before it's installed. This one will wear out sooner or later
 

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I personally think a lot of it is mapping. Stock is lean as. Many maps overboost down low and overload the bottom end of the engine. Run a decent map that is more linear and sympathetic to the drivetrain and don't thrash it when cold and it should be fine. There will of course be the odd weak engine.
My 07 has 185,000 Kilometres on it, still powers well past 6000 revs and goes hard. Original engine and turbo still.
I was worried I might have a liner issue, but it turns out my coolant hoses are perishing and the rubber is discolouring my radiator expansion tank. New silicone hoses on the way.
You Aussies seem to like the deck plate option. Do you know of many that have been done Rob?
 

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Ive been thinking about this block mod, and wondering what is actually involved by modify the block? does anyone know what is involved? Tbh for how much it cost to have this done i would seriously consider picking up a low milage second hand engine for £1000 £1200 and just leave it in the garage just incase.
 

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Ive been thinking about this block mod, and wondering what is actually involved by modify the block? does anyone know what is involved? Tbh for how much it cost to have this done i would seriously consider picking up a low milage second hand engine for £1000 £1200 and just leave it in the garage just incase.
for £750 you might as well have the block mod done then you no you will be safe from cracking a liner and yes i no what they do
 
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