Good Or Bad Choice..??

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NobbysNuts

Discussion Starter · Dec 18, 2009

Well I've been looking around for a facelift ST-3 for what seems like ages, to replace my 6 year old St170. I was looking for one in orange or white and left my details with a local Ford dealer. So he phones me today and offers me an 09 ST-3 in white with sat nav, bluetooth, reversing sensors, everything I wanted. Price was spot only 4 months old and low miles. Anyway I agreed to have the car. He checks the Ford Direct website and unfortunately it was gone..... So he rings me back an hour later with another car. Same 09 ST-3, same spec, half the miles of the white one and 8 months old, but Sea Grey colour, not white. So I agreed and left a deposit of £500 so he can transport the car here from Ford Direct site for me to see it and drive it. Now I'm regretting this decision purely on the colour, because my ST170 was Magnum Grey.... But I don't know how I stand and will I lose my £500 deposit if I say I don't want the car..?? Anyone been in a similar situation and can offer any advice..???

Thanks in advance...

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Storm

· #2 · Dec 18, 2009 (Edited by Moderator)

Your deposit should be fully refundable. There is no reason why a main stream dealer will withhold your money.

If your that worried, wait until it arrives, look at it and then state its not what you were looking for and they will refund you the money.

Shouldn't be any issues at all with getting it back.

Keep us informed

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Rich

· #3 · Dec 18, 2009

Did you sign anything?

waito

· #4 · Dec 18, 2009

I done the same when i bought mine from Ford direct,£500 deposit before i'd seen the car.I was assured that if i wasn't happy with it,i would have a full refund by the salesman.The deposit was needed to secure the car from ford direct.

MST

· #5 · Dec 18, 2009

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Dont be worried about the colour - the sea grey is an excellent choice

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Scully

· #6 · Dec 18, 2009

When we sell a car from Ford Direct - it's on the basis of a sold order, If we would of wanted the car for stock, we'd already have one.

Ford direct themselves don't accept cancellations / returns, so - if you are backing out, the dealer will have to hope they sell it on the forecourt.

Now for the good bit.

They can only legally withhold your deposit if you have signed an order form. (Which is why we always insist on an order form for ford direct vehicles).
Tell the salesman your concerns ASAP, if you haven't signed an order form, they should arrange a refund.

NobbysNuts

Discussion Starter · #7 · Dec 18, 2009

Thanks for the quick replies..!!! I haven't signed anything at all. I contacted them initially in person, left my details of what I was looking for and left. Today it was all done verbally on the phone and he did say if the car wasn't all I expected of it, he would source another one for me. I am not averse to the idea of the Sea Grey, only reason I'm having second thoughts is my ST170 is Magnum Grey and they are very similar colours..... It's been an easy colour to care for the last 6 years and does polish up very nicely. My Sister's put me off more than anyone else saying 'people won't even know you've changed your car, they look identical..!!!' Can't seem to explain to her it's a totally different model in every way to the one I've got.......

Scully

· #8 · Dec 18, 2009

If you're happy with the colour, ignore your sister - what does she know about cars anyway?

Lol. I wouldn't even care what my sister thought

STIOM

· #9 · Dec 18, 2009 (Edited by Moderator)

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Mate keep it

it's the way forward! It'll look awesome. Enjoy your

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Scully

· #10 · Dec 18, 2009

No, It's a Ford direct car, so will be the 2009 model.

Storm

· #11 · Dec 18, 2009 (Edited by Moderator)

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QUOTE(MST @ 18 Dec 2009, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Dont be worried about the colour - the sea grey is an excellent choice

Mate,

If you ever have any doubts about the colour, you can always paint it

As for you sister offering advice...... Apart from the shape, sound & spec there will be no difference!! Tell her to mind her own

Hope you get the colour you want

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STIOM

· #12 · Dec 18, 2009 (Edited by Moderator)

QUOTE(kosmo @ 18 Dec 2009, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>No, It's a Ford direct car, so will be the 2009 model.

KOSMO; A top job done?

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Scully

· #13 · Dec 18, 2009

On a used car it's not a dealer option, If the dealer has a smart repairer on site they could quote to spray them black upon delivery.

I'd imagine about £50 per wheel, but there is usually someone on here looking for a swap.

STIOM

· #14 · Dec 18, 2009

QUOTE(kosmo @ 18 Dec 2009, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>On a used car it's not a dealer option, If the dealer has a smart repairer on site they could quote to spray them black upon delivery.

I'd imagine about £50 per wheel, but there is usually someone on here looking for a swap.

Thats a good idea but shipping the wheels on and off the isle of man would cost a packet. I might find somewhere on line and when im next over book it in and get them done. Any garages in the north of england you'd recommend?

loko

· #15 · Dec 18, 2009

if you have changed your mind i would get in touch now and tell them, after all you still want to buy a car off them just not a grey one, a sales a sale i,m sure they will be more understanding if you cancel now rather than them sending it out to you

NobbysNuts

Discussion Starter · #16 · Dec 18, 2009 (Edited by Moderator)

Well first thanks for all the replies, you've been a great help. I've just been looking through the figures again that I have been quoted and they seem a bit steep... Purchase price is £16995 + 118.25 for road tax (6 months) so £17113.25. I've been allowed £4000 for my P/X and I'm putting in £2500 cash savings, so that leaves £10613.25. Payments on options 36 [email protected] £224.36= £8076.96. GMFV= £8790 (pay this at end of 3 years to buy car.. So all in at end of 3 years total= £23366.96 knock of purchase price = £6253.71 in interest..!!! I can borrow the £10600 cash from the bank for way less interest than this.. I'm wondering if he has given me the wrong figure on the MGFV..??? or he's not given me the £4000 he quoted on my P/X. I think a phone call is in order tomorrow...

Phil

· #17 · Dec 19, 2009

QUOTE(NobbysNuts @ 18 Dec 2009, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well first thanks for all the replies, you've been a great help. I've just been looking through the figures again that I have been quoted and they seem a bit steep... Purchase price is £16995 + 118.25 for road tax (6 months) so £17113.25. I've been allowed £4000 for my P/X and I'm putting in £2500 cash savings, so that leaves £10613.25. Payments on options 36 [email protected] £224.36= £8076.96. GMFV= £8790 (pay this at end of 3 years to buy car.. So all in at end of 3 years total= £23366.96 knock of purchase price = £6253.71 in interest..!!! I can borrow the £10600 cash from the bank for way less interest than this.. I'm wondering if he has given me the wrong figure on the MGFV..??? or he's not given me the £4000 he quoted on my P/X. I think a phone call is in order tomorrow...

I would look else where for finance if you can, money supermarket is a good place to start. At least at the end the car will be yours and you can spread the loan longer if you need to.

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B_H100

· #18 · Dec 19, 2009

If you are after a good finance deal let me know. A friend of mine just organised finance for me at 9% APR. Can do personalised quotes, for example payments over three years, and a payment at the end.

As an example I am financing the majority of my brand new car with mil discount and in total still pay 3k less than the list price.

B_H100

· #19 · Dec 19, 2009

Oh, and he isn't a loan shark lol..!

Gordon

· #20 · Dec 19, 2009

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JUst get it if you like it the car is totally different to your

170,have just changed mine from a prefaclift

3to a facelift

3 and with the same private plate,the wife and others said nobody would no that i had changed the car ,but i know and thats what mattered to me

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