Engine Wont Turn Over !

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mgb

Discussion Starter · Dec 3, 2009

Hi everyone...got an intermittent fault and would appreciate some thoughts and advice....I put key in ignition and turn and all I get is a buzzing noise. Then it does it again once or twice and then turns over and starts. Sometimes I get in and it starts straight away.Could this be a delay in the car recognising the key that I have read about on here or something more serious. Car is just over 3 years old with 9000 on clock and runs perfectly.

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Ryan

· #2 · Dec 3, 2009

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I've had this happen to me a couple of times over the years. You turn the ignition on and all the lights on the dash appear as per normal but when you turn the key to start the car nothing happens

When I've had this problem the car had been on a long run, turned off for a matter of minutes before attempting to re-start

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glennboysst3

· #3 · Dec 3, 2009

the older shape focus ie w reg etc etc used to have same problem ,turned out it was the car not recogiseing the code on key ,was told to put key in and turn after a few seconds ,this seemed to work and i never had the problem again ,maybe worth a try i think .

Andy D

· #4 · Dec 3, 2009

If you get 'a buzzing noise' as you described it - sounds to me like the starter solenoid playing up.

mgb

Discussion Starter · #5 · Dec 3, 2009

Thanks for views...I should have said that the buzzing noise is the fuel pump working when all the warning lights come on just before the final turn of the key. I always wait a few seconds for all the warning lights to go out before cranking the engine. It does not do it all the time but it makes you a bit parenoid every time you start the car wondering if its going to happen and not rectify itself one day.

Shaggy

· #6 · Dec 4, 2009

Im getting exactly the same problem. It did it to me twice yesterday, at Dreamscience and in the Shell garage so we had to bump start it. Carl reckons the starter motor could be sticking or the whole thing might be loose and simply needs tightening up. Im gonna try the tightening option today and if that doesnt work im off on a little trip to Fords.

Ryan

· #7 · Dec 4, 2009

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Strange as I've never had to bump start my car

Mine seems to be that the started motor solenoid doesn't engage but the car usually starts after a few attempts. It hasn't happened to me for 6 odd month either

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admiralpellion

· #8 · Dec 4, 2009 (Edited by Moderator)

QUOTE(Ryan @ 3 Dec 2009, 08:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>When I've had this problem the car had been on a long run, turned off for a matter of minutes before attempting to re-start

I used to have use of an old ST24 mondeo when I was 17 that used to do exactly the same, a long drive then stop and an attempted restart very shortly after and nothign would happen. Very annoying but after a few minutes it would be fine

QUOTE(Shaggy @ 4 Dec 2009, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Im getting exactly the same problem. It did it to me twice yesterday, at Dreamscience and in the Shell garage so we had to bump start it. Carl reckons the starter motor could be sticking or the whole thing might be loose and simply needs tightening up. Im gonna try the tightening option today and if that doesnt work im off on a little trip to Fords.

I also had a simial issue on my 205 around about the same time as the mondeo, In fact i used to carry an old hammer in the boot so I could tap the starter motor and release the solonoid worked a treat every time!

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Shaggy

· #9 · Dec 4, 2009

Ive tried tightening the screws up and ive sprayed wd40 on the connections just in case. Ive tried stopping and starting a few times today and its worked so far. Im gonna keep checking though as it doesnt always do it anyway. With mine if it does do it, it doesnt matter how many times you try it just never works. Will keep a hammer in the car at all times now youve said that lol its a good idea.

dazz

· #10 · Dec 4, 2009

change the battery in the key fob

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turbotone

· #11 · Dec 4, 2009

QUOTE(dazz @ 4 Dec 2009, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>change the battery in the key fob

How does the key fob open to change the battery?

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Shaggy

· #12 · Jan 12, 2010 (Edited by Moderator)

Mines started doing it again only this time it will not start at all without bump starting. Ive tried both keys and the hammer trick all unsuccesfully. All im getting now is the clunking noise when its trying to start but then ends in failure. Does anybody have an idea how much a new starter motor will set me back.

mbaker

· #13 · Jan 12, 2010

Might be worth checking the battery before blaming the starter motor? COuld be the battery does not have enough juice to spin the starter motor, so all you hear is the solenoid operating?

Shaggy

· #14 · Jan 12, 2010

It was a new battery in August, I changed it when the engine failed its a pretty good one. Ive been on the phone to Ford today they have ordered me a new one. 300notes, its expensive but if needs must. I tried my local salvage company but they didnt have one and ive never trusted ebay for some reason lol.

Shaggy

· #15 · Jan 14, 2010

All sorted. Changed the starter motor took about 10 mins. Starts first time everytime now.

maydew

· #16 · Jan 14, 2010

out of curiosity was there any greyish metal filings inside the old starter motor as its an early sign of dual mass flywheel failing.
The dust and filings can wreck the starter pretty quickly leaving the warranty on the new starter void

Shaggy

· #17 · Jan 15, 2010

It was pretty filthy, didnt notice any filings though just lots of black mess. I plan on upgrading to the RS clutch and flywheel soon though.

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