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So im remapping the st soon and i just wondered is the dreamscience worth the extra money over the bluefin?? and if so why? or if there are any others work having?

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QUOTE(Locky @ 7 Nov 2009, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So im remapping the st soon and i just wondered is the dreamscience worth the extra money over the bluefin?? and if so why? or if there are any others work having?

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Can only speak for what I use (which is Dreamscience) which in my honest opinion is well worth every penny you pay
excellent maps, fast loading of maps etc. suits me


Sure others will comment about Bluefin etc.

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I had bluefin on my VXR, I found it right pain in the **** that you have to download the maps from superchips server which is only open 9-5 if you fancy a change. Great maps though


Whereas the DC unit us very easy to switch maps!
 

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do yourself a favour if your modding your car with ic - cias - and exhaust

buy a dreamscience with modC on it...you will want it in the end

i bought a second hand duo

so to upgrade to modC, i might as well have bought new in the end as its roughly going to work out the same price
 

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Both products are brilliant as is the Code-Red version! Dreamscience wins hands down though because you can sell it on or put it on your new ST much easier should you change cars! It also comes with a choice of maps that are easy to change between!
 

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I have all Ds on mine and find it great . I have also driven the Profile
and was very impressed with the low down pull of that . Not quite as good as the Ds Mod C at the top end , but still very nice ...but i would still go with Ds if i started again ..
 

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QUOTE(Speedfreek @ 7 Nov 2009, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have all Ds on mine and find it great . I have also driven the Profile
and was very impressed with the low down pull of that . Not quite as good as the Ds Mod C at the top end , but still very nice ...but i would still go with Ds if i started again ..
Would agree 100 per cent. I run mod C and have also driven the code red 295 car and a bluefin car around the same bhp. Both the code red and bluefin are really good maps, but I don't think any of them have the same top end power as mod c
 

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QUOTE(Locky @ 7 Nov 2009, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So im remapping the st soon and i just wondered is the dreamscience worth the extra money over the bluefin?? and if so why? or if there are any others work having?

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I've been quite fortunate to have driven most of the products. They are all actually very good & deliver similar results.

If warranty is important the Mountune package is the one or Dreamscience is great for totally standard cars that can easily be returned to stock
before service.

I have a Dreamscience hand-set & do actually switch between maps. It is very personal, and everyone will have different opinions.
I find Performance+ is pretty much spot-on for everyday driving and returns slightly better than stock MPG.
For track days I like the appropriately named Race+ map. Thinking of upgrading my hand-set to try Mod A,B,C.

My only caveat is that a re-map on a standard car is good but the big difference is when you improve the flow overall with
an induction kit/ECU spacer, sports cat, IC etc. And this is where the complete tuning packages from Code:Red, Mountune etc
score very highly because they remove all the variables & consequently their maps are very smooth.
They seem expensive, but, you'll probably end up spending that much in the end & the mix/match results you finally converge to
can't be test driven so there's a bit of a lottery.

Personally I would go for a DS because it still has a residual value unlike Bluefin and the results will be broadly similar,
and you might be suprised how often you switch maps. If you have more £££s then I would seriously consider one of the packages.

You won't believe how much better the car is, honestly.
Get it done.
 

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Loaded DS today for the first time and played with the various maps. Very very VERY enjoyable!
I would think there's a map on there for everyone's taste which isn't necessarily the case with the others.

Speaking to other members any of the remaps make a tremendous difference, it's just down to what you plan to do in the future?
 

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I think DS is most definitely worth the money, but Bluefin's torque limiting maps are a good idea. I wish DS would develop some more mid-range maps like Performance+, or create some capped maps that eliminate the massive torque spikes. This is just me getting burnt with one of the infamous 07 clutches, so I like to keep things within spec if possible... I think Perf+ with an Airtec Gen3 and a Dsci intake is mental, I love it, but I always wonder if they could make it even better with more development.

Slightly OT, what boost does ModC hit? I'm always tempted, only an exhaust and a DS unit upgrade away but I don't want to make this baby turbo run 1.2bar+.
 

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QUOTE(furiousgibbon @ 8 Nov 2009, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think DS is most definitely worth the money, but Bluefin's torque limiting maps are a good idea. I wish DS would develop some more mid-range maps like Performance+, or create some capped maps that eliminate the massive torque spikes. This is just me getting burnt with one of the infamous 07 clutches, so I like to keep things within spec if possible... I think Perf+ with an Airtec Gen3 and a Dsci intake is mental, I love it, but I always wonder if they could make it even better with more development.

Slightly OT, what boost does ModC hit? I'm always tempted, only an exhaust and a DS unit upgrade away but I don't want to make this baby turbo run 1.2bar+.

i have seen in excess of 18psi (spike) with mod c on a free flowing exhaust and all the usual bolts ons. It depends on what exhaust/ intake / intercooler you are running.
 

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Ok I figured it would be around that, in which case I'll probably stick with perf+, 14psi sounds more sensible and is enough go for me... especially considering warranty is up in 10 months. Just all this raving about ModC makes me wanna give it a burl...
 
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