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So recently bought a second-hand ford focus st2 (2008) [71K Miles], My first car was Mitsubishi Colt [Bought it 4 months ago which I crashed it :rolleyes:]
so this car feels like a dream to me :)
I am planning to increase the bhp from 221 to around 265 or 270bhp, I have added a short shifter by myself already (35% reduction in gear throw)
and did a major service last Friday and they said the car is in very good condition so I decided to put more mods in the car.
The Garage is going to put an intercooler and new exhaust and air filter I believe. Is Block-Mod required if I am not going to push my bhp above 300?
Thanks for reading :)

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as above get used to the car first, however if you are going stage 1 and i know what i was like when i was young, factor in a rs clutch :LOL: (y) intercooler you have already said you're getting and exhaust, your set, i would also look at the other side of things like pads and discs, good tyres, changeover of coolant pipes which bigayal has already suggested, what intercooler are you planning on getting?.

regarding the block mod its up to you, there are plenty of threads on here, have a good read of them and make your mind up that way (y)
 

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I have no clue what intercooler I will get. The Garage ordered it for me and they said it will be around 300 pounds. They said they will contact me in 7 days, so far I love this car :) It is very hard to do heel and toe tho which is annoying and I find it very hard to shift in fifth gear sometimes :) But I tried to drive in the left lane most of the time in 6th gear because it drives fuel like water. But thank you for the advice:
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First and probably the most important thing you can do, is if not already, fit a set of good tyres, after all, it鈥檚 the only part of the car that contacts the road, no point in having loads of power, if you can鈥檛 transfer it to the ground, plus it鈥檚 always nice to be able to stop and go round corners. 馃榿
 

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I have no clue what intercooler I will get. The Garage ordered it for me and they said it will be around 300 pounds. They said they will contact me in 7 days, so far I love this car :) It is very hard to do heel and toe tho which is annoying and I find it very hard to shift in fifth gear sometimes :) But I tried to drive in the left lane most of the time in 6th gear because it drives fuel like water. But thank you for the advice:
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If you are a relatively new driver just concentrate on developing your basic skills, no need for heel and toe on the road especially in a modern FWD car with syncromesh gears etc. If you were trying to drive like that from the start I'm not really surprised you crashed so soon.

I'm not trying to be harsh but you really don't want the same thing to happen to the Focus!
 

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I have no clue what intercooler I will get. The Garage ordered it for me and they said it will be around 300 pounds. They said they will contact me in 7 days, so far I love this car :) It is very hard to do heel and toe tho which is annoying and I find it very hard to shift in fifth gear sometimes :) But I tried to drive in the left lane most of the time in 6th gear because it drives fuel like water. But thank you for the advice:
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i would look at auto specialist for upgraded parts and there are plenty of discount codes floating about, i would also shop at a and k motorsport for parts and upgraded parts to
Focus Mk2 ST225 (2006-2010) - Auto Specialists
Focus ST225 All Models (aandkmotorsport.com)

and yes, the car drinks, that's why my car is a weekend toy :LOL: i also eco at what the others have said tho, get to know the car first (y)
 

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i would look at auto specialist for upgraded parts and there are plenty of discount codes floating about, i would also shop at a and k motorsport for parts and upgraded parts to
Focus Mk2 ST225 (2006-2010) - Auto Specialists
Focus ST225 All Models (aandkmotorsport.com)

any yes the car drinks, that's why my car is a weekend toy :LOL:
Yes, I think I am too lazy so I just spent around 3K to have everything done in the Garage.
InterCooler, Break Mod, RS clutch, new Exhaust and air fliter done by the same Garage :)
having the 35% short shifter is making it even harder to shift to 5th gear fast tho...
270bhp is going to be the max power for me anyway.
I use it as my daily car. Trying to rev match instead of heel and toe most of the time now :)
 

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Yes, I think I am too lazy so I just spent around 3K to have everything done in the Garage.
InterCooler, Break Mod, RS clutch, new Exhaust and air fliter done by the same Garage :)
having the 35% short shifter is making it even harder to shift to 5th gear fast tho...
270bhp is going to be the max power for me anyway.
I use it as my daily car. Trying to rev match instead of heel and toe most of the time now :)
would be very careful not to boot it in first gear, the driveshafts don't like that at all and there expensive
 

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would be very careful not to boot it in first gear, the driveshafts don't like that at all and there expensive
Again thanks for the advice.
I thought first gear can take up to 40mph but I normally switch to second gear after 10mph then 3th after 20mph and 4th after 30mph and fifth anything between 40-60 and then 6th gear
I will keep you updated once the car is done. It will probably be 1.5 weeks after
 

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Again thanks for the advice.
I thought first gear can take up to 40mph but I normally switch to second gear after 10mph then 3th after 20mph and 4th after 30mph and fifth anything between 40-60 and then 6th gear
I will keep you updated once the car is done. It will probably be 1.5 weeks after
40mph in first - especially with these cars & their driveshafts - is pushing it a little but by contrast being in fourth at 30mph is not using the boost at all & you will be labouring the engine. It might keep your fuel economy nice & high but that is because the engine is not pulling and the turbo is not boosting - and the old 5 pots like to pull! Thankfully the Mk2's don't suffer from LSPI like the mk3's but being in 4th at 30mph & then putting your foot down would kill a mk3 engine very quickly!
If you want nice high mpg & to be cruising at 30mph in fourth the ST is not the car for that! There is a fine line between choking the engine & thrashing it however once out of first (with the limited torque the ECU has to protect the driveshafts) use the turbo - that is what you have bought the car for! In my old mk2 I was rarely in 5th unless on a dual carriageway & then only really in 6th on long motorway cruises. The other thing is that lots of gear changes will wear out the clutch quicker which doesn't need much help especially on a tuned Mk2 - nor does it actually help the fuel economy!
Plus changing up every 10mph means you are accelerating from 60 to 150 in one gear which will take you an age...................... :whistle:
 

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40mph in first - especially with these cars & their driveshafts - is pushing it a little but by contrast being in fourth at 30mph is not using the boost at all & you will be labouring the engine. It might keep your fuel economy nice & high but that is because the engine is not pulling and the turbo is not boosting - and the old 5 pots like to pull! Thankfully the Mk2's don't suffer from LSPI like the mk3's but being in 4th at 30mph & then putting your foot down would kill a mk3 engine very quickly! If you want nice high mpg & to be cruising at 30mph in fourth the ST is not the car for that! There is a fine line between choking the engine & thrashing it however once out of first (with the limited torque the ECU has to protect the driveshafts) use the turbo - that is what you have bought the car for! In my old mk2 I was rarely in 5th unless on a dual carriageway & then only really in 6th on long motorway cruises. The other thing is that lots of gear changes will wear out the clutch quicker which doesn't need much help especially on a tuned Mk2 - nor does it actually help the fuel economy! Plus changing up every 10mph means you are accelerating from 60 to 150 in one gear which will take you an age...................... :whistle:
So 0-10 for first gear , 10-25 for second and 25-35 is third and 35-50 is forth then 50-70 is fifth and 70+ would be 6th I guess But yes I will keep that in mind 馃槉
 

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It is not so much about just changing gears at set mph as there is a lot more to it than that. If nothing else you are then concentrating on the speedo & not on the road ahead! Unless I have to be doing a set speed like in a built up area I hardly look at my speedo. Gear changes depend on road & traffic conditions, weather etc & so much more. It is also about being mechanically sympathetic to the car & engine so if I am cruising I will change up sooner but if I am wanting to accelerate I change up later. Keeping to a set mph every time you might as well be driving an automatic car!
Driving a turbo charged car is different to a n/a car as you need to consider the optimum power band for the engine plus the boost on your turbo as the other thing with changing up so often you will not be getting the turbo on boost much so again you might as well be driving a n/a car!
In short the revs are the important thing to keep half an eye on but listen to the engine & drive to the conditions - then enjoy the car!
 

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It is not so much about just changing gears at set mph as there is a lot more to it than that. If nothing else you are then concentrating on the speedo & not on the road ahead! Unless I have to be doing a set speed like in a built up area I hardly look at my speedo. Gear changes depend on road & traffic conditions, weather etc & so much more. It is also about being mechanically sympathetic to the car & engine so if I am cruising I will change up sooner but if I am wanting to accelerate I change up later. Keeping to a set mph every time you might as well be driving an automatic car!
Driving a turbo charged car is different to a n/a car as you need to consider the optimum power band for the engine plus the boost on your turbo as the other thing with changing up so often you will not be getting the turbo on boost much so again you might as well be driving a n/a car!
In short the revs are the important thing to keep half an eye on but listen to the engine & drive to the conditions - then enjoy the car!
Plus if you race to 5th/6th you'll miss the satisfaction of 3rd & 4th gear pulls, sod the MPG you get a better roar joining a M'way in 4th 馃榾
 

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Great you've got an ST, but you sound like a real novice when it comes to driving, especially adapting your style to the conditions around you. Changing gear at certain mph is something I was told when learning to drive, and that was in a mini metro in 1982. You need to assess the road, listen to your revs, feel what the car is doing under your right foot and how it feels as you apply more throttle, feel when the boost comes in. Lots to consider, that only really come with experience. Heel & toe for the race track imho. Good luck!
 
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