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[Pitsparky]

@Pitsparky ok

Its not just bd performance that I've heard about engines failing. It's been from ford branches, other car garages and car meets. It must just be that 0.01% all seem to be near me or they are the unlucky ones and just by chance I'm the one that speaks to them or hears about it.

Honda now they have a reliable engine. I had my ep3 running 390bhp on a standard block and at the time I was always hitting the limiter and driving the car very hard. Never heard of any failures with that engine unless they were run low on oil but then that's poor maintenance and you deserve what you get as you need to be on top of all this.

All these cars are designed to be driven hard and pushed and if they go pop you can't blame it on the way it was driven. What's the point in buying them then. Yes once tuned your taking that risk and I'm fully aware of that.

They must be all around you mate, certainly not around here. And how many RSs are around you?

Are you not more concerned about your own car rather than others that you dont have? Youre pistons are about to melt any day arent they? Probably more of this ridiculous claim around than RSs having problems. Equally misrepresentative I agree, sure you do on that one!

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[caprixpack]

If you can't take someone criticising something you like, then maybe the internet and a discussion forum isn't the place for you.

Regarding the above discussion on the 2.3. Remember the handful of MK2 rs models that had issues with the standard plastic plenum going pop? A problem caused by software allowing the engine to backfire into the plenum, that was rectified by a software update. Yet this is now widely believed (and utterly bull myth) that the standard plenum on the st will go pop if you run more power.
All I'm saying is there's no smoke without fire. Did the MK2 rs have an issue with the plenum going pop? Yes, but it's wasn't as widespread as everyone makes out. Did the MK3 rs have an issue with engine failure and gaskets? Yes it did.

[s66anb]

They must be all around you mate, certainly not around here. And how many RSs are around you?
Are you not more concerned about your own car rather than others that you dont have? Youre pistons are about to melt any day arent they? Probably more of this ridiculous claim around than RSs having problems. Equally misrepresentative I agree, sure you do on that one!

Why would I be concerned about my own car? And why will the pistons melt. I drive my cars hard although no where near how hard I use to drive them as I've grown up alot since I had my ep3. But I still like to push the car and use the rev range as that's why it's there.

I've had plenty cars with known faults.
Bmw 335i on 20k the turbos went or something did as it was smokey and the n54 engine was known to have an issue with something along those lines.
I've had 2 bmw e46 m3's one of which I just sold to buy the st that I now own. They have issues with big end bearings, boot floor cracking, vanos issues, smg pump if your auto and clunky diffs.
Bmw e92 m3 which also suffer from vanos and big end bearings.
Now these are big jobs and cost alot of money which should not be happening on such an expensive car.
My mk2 focus rs I cracked a piston running revo stage 4+ then once I forged it I then cracked a liner.

These are just the cars I've had with issues. All the Honda's and jap stuff I've owned have ran perfect and been abused and not missed a beat

[Pitsparky]

If you can't take someone criticising something you like, then maybe the internet and a discussion forum isn't the place for you.

Regarding the above discussion on the 2.3. Remember the handful of MK2 rs models that had issues with the standard plastic plenum going pop? A problem caused by software allowing the engine to backfire into the plenum, that was rectified by a software update. Yet this is now widely believed (and utterly bull myth) that the standard plenum on the st will go pop if you run more power.
All I'm saying is there's no smoke without fire. Did the MK2 rs have an issue with the plenum going pop? Yes, but it's wasn't as widespread as everyone makes out. Did the MK3 rs have an issue with engine failure and gaskets? Yes it did.

Cant take criticism? I couldnt care less, its a debate and I disagree totally with comments like the 2.3 general is an unreliable engine. And the RS engine is unreliable. Utter and driven from envy.

[caprixpack]

A debate it is indeed but you do seem to be debating with your fingers in your ears.

[Pitsparky]

Why would I be concerned about my own car? And why will the pistons melt. I drive my cars hard although no where near how hard I use to drive them as I've grown up alot since I had my ep3. But I still like to push the car and use the rev range as that's why it's there.

I've had plenty cars with known faults.
Bmw 335i on 20k the turbos went or something did as it was smokey and the n54 engine was known to have an issue with something along those lines.
I've had 2 bmw e46 m3's one of which I just sold to buy the st that I now own. They have issues with big end bearings, boot floor cracking, vanos issues, smg pump if your auto and clunky diffs.
Bmw e92 m3 which also suffer from vanos and big end bearings.
Now these are big jobs and cost alot of money which should not be happening on such an expensive car.
My mk2 focus rs I cracked a piston running revo stage 4+ then once I forged it I then cracked a liner.

These are just the cars I've had with issues. All the Honda's and jap stuff I've owned have ran perfect and been abused and not missed a beat

As I thought, youre 2.0 engine doesnt have the piston problem widely discussed on here. Only believe it when its other cars and not yours.

And there you go again listing other cars with proven outstandingly reliability because you may or may not of heard

Give it a rest. Its monotonous.

[Pitsparky]

A debate it is indeed but you do seem to be debating with your fingers in your ears.

Try posting relevant facts about the topic pal.

[s66anb]

As I thought, youre 2.0 engine doesnt have the piston problem widely discussed on here. Only believe it when its other cars and not yours.
And there you go again listing other cars with proven outstandingly reliability because you may or may not of heard
Give it a rest. Its monotonous.

What are you on about? You come out with some amount of

[Pitsparky]

Its incredible that almost every-time outrageous comments like the 2.3 engine is unreliable is rightly challenged as nonsense you get the off topic crass comments. This place can be very childish snd looking back through posts its habitual.

[s66anb]

I'm gonna guess your bored and feel the need to be a keyboard warrior

[caprixpack]

The facts are out there for all to find if they're willing.

[Pitsparky]

What are you on about? You come out with some amount of

No? Before you slag off cars for whatever reason you have and have my suspicions you should have facts. You havent got any. Youve claimed to have heard of a couple of failures on RSs then tar all the1000s of RSs with the same brush.

Its childish.

[s66anb]

Are you on the focus rs forum? Do you hang about with anyone or leave your house at any point to socialise? Doing these simple tasks you'll soon learn that there are issues. This is just going round in circles and as Steve said you must just have your fingers in your ears as you be been told that there are issues and cars are failing yet you don't want to listen to any one or belive it. Strange

[Pitsparky]

The facts are out there for all to find if they're willing.

https://youtu.be/MCua5CpaESk

You can find stuff like that on every car on the road. Totally meaningless. So how many dont gave problems then, answer that? Its a machine and they can fail, a lot more so when bodged and abused.

I admit it gets on my when I see crass comments from none owners slagging off anything that isnt theirs. Without evidence and the whole picture its meaningless.

[Jason Sullivan]

Two good mates of mine both had engine failure one recently which cost just over 10k to rectify head warped in 4 places and block . Luckily he had 5 year warranty.
 
Other mate is now on his 2nd replacement engine so my maths says out of 3 us 66% have failed