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25th December 2008 - 05:58 PM Last post by: Therion |
The time has come to start listing all the different parts available for the Focus ST to help out all the people who dont know much about whats available and what to go for. So below is the start of the list with the basic specs ive found out after a quick trawl round the web, so if you can add to it please post below and ill update. Ill also add average prices of parts and where from. If you know of cheaper prices please let me know also.
Mongoose - Probably the cheapest package available!
3" Downpipe from the turbo - £144.50 (PDUK)
Decat pipe 3" - £110.50 (PDUK)
Sports Cat 100cpi - £357 (PDUK)
Cat back with choice of 4" Rolled in, 3.5" slashed/rolled in, 4.5" slash and 4" rolled out - £258.19 (PDUK)
Magnex -
3" downpipe from the turbo - £135.12 (Wolf)
decat pipe 3" - £84.82 (Wolf)
Sports cat 100cpi - £394 (Wolf)
Cat back with 4" rolled in - £343.02 (Wolf)
Milltek - One of the best quality exhaust available
3" downpipe from the turbo - £221 (PDUK)
decat pipe 3" - £120 (PDUK)
Sports cat 200cpi - £520 (PDUK)
Non resonated Cat back with 4" slashed/rolled in - £500.65 (PDUK)
Resonated cat back with 4" slashed/rolled in - £574.70 (PDUK)
Piper - Probably the loudest exhaust available
Downpipe -
Decat pipe 3" - £104 (Pumabuild)
Sports cat 200cpi - £375 (Pumabuild)
Cat back with choice of 3.5" rolled in, 3.5" rolled out and 4" slash - £435 (Pumabuild)
Janspeed -
Downpipe 2.5" - £199 (Wolf)
Sports cat 200cpi - £339 (Wolf)
Cat back single box with 4" slashed/rolled in - £387 (Wolf)
Cat back double box with 4" slashed/rolled in - £449 (Wolf)
Primary Designs - Probably the best available but very pricey
Downpipe 3" -
Sports cat 100cpi -
Cat back -
Jetex
Cat back 2.5" pipework with 4" slashed/rolled in - £405 (europerformance)
Scorpion
Cat back with 4" slashed cut - £320.36 (europerformance)
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21st December 2008 - 11:45 AM Last post by: Mikkel |
Ok so here in turn we can have a list of everyone's car that have the GGR conversion,
Please list what you have had (e.g GGR Stage I or GGR Stage II remap ) and any other mods that GGR carried out (e.g brakes, suspension etc).
I shall go first:
GGR ST300 conversion

consisting of:
GGR CAIS
GGR down pipe
GGR sports cat 100 cpsi
Pro-Alloy Intercooler
GGR ST 300 map
Thanks,
Nikos

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10th December 2008 - 04:58 AM Last post by: lagoonagolf |
If your thinking of modding then take it from someone who has been down this road, and spent alot of money (some of which could have been avoided) on mods.
My order of mods would be:
1) a remap - handheld unit such as Code:Red, Dreamscience, Bluefin :- all have plus and minus points so the choice really is your own as without other mods they all give similar results.
Budget on £5002) Exhaust system - change just the downpipe and cat if you can't afford a full system. Most people just stick a backbox on and wonder why it doesnt do much, power is released by changing the bits iv mentioned, then when you get some more cash finish the exhaust of with the cat back sections. (or if you can afford it do it all at once.) Again plenty of choice, cheapest is Magnex, Piper is loud, For Quality choose either a Miltek System or the Primary Designs System (PD is pricey but very good).
Budget on £400 (for downpipe and sports cat) with additional £400 for catback system3) CAIS - this is a "Closed Air Intake System" fancy words for an Induction Kit, works pretty well but without the exhaust and remap you wont see major benefits. Options are Wolf and GGR (same design similar costs). Also K&N offer an open Induction Kit that sits down near the passenger headlight in front of the wheel liner to avoid the heatsoak, its cheaper at about £200 (CAIS is around £400) but TBH pretty much accepted that the CAIS systems work better. This works fine for the costs if money is tight.
Budget on £400 (but £200 will suffice aslong your not going to stage 4+)4) Intercoolers - The intercooler (I/C) allows the air to cool down (after it's passed through the red hot turbo don't forget) before it enters the engine itself, once you have modded to this level your charge temps (ACT's) will be on the rise very quickly when you start to "make progress"

So why does it matter? The ST has a very clever ECU (the Bosch ME9 to be exact) which will actually monitor ACT's and when they get to high ( i dont know the extact figure but its around 55-60 degrees C) the ECU will actually start to back off the power effectively un-doing all the hard work modding it you have done! By fitting the uprated I/C you allow the charged air to remain at a nice temp that the ECU is happy with, as the colder the air the denser it is and the more fuel charge can be added to it. Options on the I/C are Forge, Pro Alloy, Radtec, Airtec. Price normally reflects quality but the two most popular are Radtec and Pro Alloy. Visually the Pro Alloy is a more pleasing unit, but in tests the Radtec looks to be the better performing unit.
Budget on £400-£500Once you have fitted the above 4 stages you will find yourself with somewhere between 270-290bhp depending on what brands you have fitted and how well set up the car is. Regardless of "numbers" you WILL notice the car is a hell of alot more fun to drive, sounds fantastic and is generally just alot quicker. The next stages are where it starts to get more expensive, alot more expensive.
Turbo Upgrades:
Wolf WR330 or Pumaspeed ST340R both use same idea, reworked standard turbo to produce more boost and ultimatly more power, Both have merits so again choice is yours on this.
Budget on approx £2-£4k depending on where you are up to on the above stages listed.If you want to go SILLY then Pumabuid offer GT28 conversions but be warned you will need deep pockets to go down this route (even more so than the other two turbo upgrades) and its still very early days for this route.
Budget on 6k+So Good luck with modding your car, the path you choose will of course ultimatly determine how much money you spend and which companies you encounter.
BrakesOnce you have stage 4 you really should be looking at brake upgrades, AP 4 pots are available if you want to keep the standard alloys, otherwise you can run AP 6 Pots (but you need 19" alloys). Of course you can just run upgraded pads and discs and brake lines, but that depends on how hard you drive.
SuspensionOption A: Lowering springs, options are H&R or Eibach. Personally the H&R's are my choice, good handling and a nice low stance make for a great car.
Budget £200 fittedOption B: Coilovers, options are Bilstein or KW's. the Bilsteins are dear at £1200, but the KW's arn't much cheaper £1k) both are cracking set ups and will defy logic of what FWD is capable of. A serious upgrade for serious cars, I wouldnt bother with coilovers unless you plan on more than one track day a year or visits to the Nurburgring.
Contacts:
Collins - sell exhausts, expert mappers, Dreamscience Master dealers.
Pumaspeed - full packages offered
Wolf UK - full packages offered
Pumabuild - full packages offered
GGR - Specialist ford tuners, been in the game years. full packages offered.
These are pretty much the top tuners (not in order mind) that are about for the ST.
That should save you some searching. Hope it helps.
Just to point out, almost all the products listed above can or have been on either group buys or forum discount at some point in the last twelve months and no doubt will remain to have great deals set up, so if your thinking of modding then upgrade to "owner member" status for the forum through the online shop, it will cost you £10 for twelve months but will save you potentially hundreds of pounds!
Rick
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21st April 2008 - 07:44 AM Last post by: Kalibur |
Thought it might be agood idea to pin this fitting guide for the Radtec Intercooler as a few of you have been asking about it.
The guide is in PDF format, if you do not have a PDF reader you can get one for free by clicking
HERE
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29th May 2007 - 07:47 PM Last post by: TimmyRaa |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurbochargerJust browsing the internet and found this site which I thought might come in handy to anybody who hasn't had a turbocharged car before and wanted to know how it worked!
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18th May 2007 - 09:15 AM Last post by: thekirbyfake |
This post is intended as an FAQ for the various tuning options available for the ST. To discuss the results please do so in the main forum. Manufacturers please PM me with updates.
The ST begins with 225bhp and 236ftlb and there are various options for increasing the power/torque. Figures are correct at time of going to press
(22/05/07). Check with each supplier for warranty.
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DreamscienceStrategem ST225. £499 inc VAT (Special Owner Member Forum Price)
Handset with 4 separate maps:
Race Plus 271bhp 330ftlb
Race 265bhp 310ftlb
Performance Plus 260bhp 295ftlb
Performance 255bhp 285ftlb
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SuperchipsBluefin
Level 1. £539 inc VAT (Special Forum Price)
271bhp 325ftlb
Level 2. Free software download following purchase of Level 1.
290bhp 330ftlb
Requires replacement air intake and sports CAT.
Level 3. £49 inc VAT following purchase of Level 1
305bhp 330ftlb
Requires replacement air intake, uprated intercooler, downpipe, sports CAT and full exhaust system.
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WolfCode:Red
Level 1 - WR265 £588 inc VAT
262bhp 300ftlb
Level 2 - WR285 £1299 inc VAT (Special Forum Price)
281bhp 315ftlb
Includes Induction Kit, Magnex Cat Back Exhaust fitted by Wolf
WR300. £3299 inc VAT (Special Forum Price)
296bhp 285ftlb
Includes complete exhaust manifold, bigger turbo, upgraded waste gate, remapped ECU inc ESP software, gaskets & labour fitted by Wolf.
Level 3 - WR330. £4999 inc VAT (Special Forum Price)
320bhp 377ftlb
Includes WR300 plus intercooler, induction kit, down pipe, sport CAT & exhaust fitted by Wolf.
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Graham GoodeGGR ST300. £2814 inc VAT
300bhp 265ftlb
Includes GGR Bluefin handset, induction kit, down pipe, sport CAT, intercooler & exhaust fitted by GGR.
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MoregoStarchip. £499.95 inc VAT
265bhp 302 ftlb
Phase 1. BBR - ST280. £1295 inc VAT
280bhp ???ftlb
Includes replacement air intake, cat-back exhaust & ECU remap.
Phase 2. BBR - ST290. £1795 inc VAT
290bhp ???ftlb
Includes replacement air intake, full exhaust & ECU remap.
Phase 3. BBR - ST350. £6995 inc VAT
350bhp ???ftlb
Includes Phase 2 plus high flow cast manifold & high flow turbo assembly.
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All figures stated in bhp and ftlb.
bhp to PS multiply by 1.0139
ftlb to Nm multiply by 1.3558
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27th October 2006 - 01:54 PM Last post by: Dunc |
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Today, 12:39 PM Last post by: Tigger390 |
A bunch of us are considering going for the Mountune ST260 package, which means that we will have to give up our current maps be it BSR/DS/Bluefin etc. and possibly the additional Stage 2-3 hardware.
My understanding from Mountune is that:
"The boost pressure itself is never set at a maintained level by the calibration as the torque demand structure of the engine control system monitors and adjusts the set point of this boost pressure (air flow) 10 times a second. There are no uncontrolled boost surges or spikes. There is no set boost curve to follow, but there is a torque production curve instead."
Iam not sure if the main tuners like BF/DS/CR use the same logic in tuning or if they aim to control Boost/Ingition Advance/AFR's etc. which would then be different if iam not mistaken?
It would be very interesting to hear from current Mountuned owners what the peak and sustained boost levels are in the Mountune cars and if the delivery of Boost (from the boost gauge, not by feel as iam sure most would say is smoother) is any different from the usual suspects.
Cheers.
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Today, 12:08 PM Last post by: troy45 |
Hi mates,
we just had a very strange discussion in a german ST forum.
"Which intercooler is the best?!"
Uh,you would not believe what went on there!
My opinion is that the Proalloy WRC I/C is the best one u can buy now.
Code:red ist rubbish-too small and made in china!
There is a I/C from MTB which is much higher than the Proalloy and made in germany by a motorsport company near munich.but it´s much thinner than the Proalloy-I think they have the same volume.
Since now, I´ve got BF Stage1 and a mongoose exhaust system including downpipe and a sportskat!
My result on a dyno was 276,1 bhp by DIN and 267,7 bhp by EWG.
plz tell me what kind of I/C is recommended for the best result in getting power or what kind you prefer.
regards
Joerg
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Today, 11:17 AM Last post by: NickC |
just managed to find myself a bnib pipercross panel filter and want to fit it , however i dont have a clue where to start ? ive heard that the filter is tucked away and a pain to get to .
any help would be good
thanks
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Yesterday, 11:47 PM Last post by: lesteruk23 |
Looking for an induction kit for my ST, I have been the bling and showy route before and after spending thousands on chrome and other parts I have decided to keep it a lot more subtle this time. Neat but subtle if you get what I am, well that and concours clean lol
Anywho I am torn between the two induction kits, I want an open cone kit as I think it will sound better, as the ST loses a bit of its engineered noise on Race+.
Now I like the look of the K&N kit and the price. I am not to keen on how low it sits in the bay, but it doesn't seem to be a problem so far to anyone on here. Good points are a few people say it sounds pretty good, and give a little wastegate chatter

, and the best part for me is it looks modded but subtle, and it means the ECU is neatly attached as well. Oh and its cheap!
Now onto the DSCI kit, its getting some pretty good reviews, and everyone says it sounds good (I want some chatter lol

), and it sits higher up in the bay and seems to give good power gains. However I will be honest I think it looks a bit shouty for my liking, although I haven't yet seen one thats black and not plastered in stickers so if anyone has any pics of one that would be interesting. Other bad points are you need to relocate the ecu, now I want it to sit horizontally in the bay as its neater imo, and I think this means I need to buy another mounting kit elsewhere as the DS ones all seem to be mounted diaganolly. Also I would then need an ECU cover to smarten it up, so the cost is rising..
Now I don't like the fact that either have no cold air feed as such from the standard grille (just leaves it plain and open) but I am sure as hell not spending £450 on a new GGR kit, thats just to much money when you can't even hear it lol! So I guess I might have to devise something that will keep the factory look.
Second hand kits are out of the question btw, as I want the bay like concours - so it has to be perfect i.e. not a mark!
So what are peoples opinions of the kit? Will the DS really give the extra power over the K&N that people are saying? Is there much in it on the sound front?
Cheers for the help people!
P.S. I was going to get an RS induction system, but looking at the pics I am not sure if the ECU wiring will reach! Plus its an expensive thing to buy if they then release an induction kit for it, that gives even more power lol!
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Yesterday, 10:16 PM Last post by: evlarad |
Well here we go guys
Went to DSHQ today to have the all new DS induction kit fitted, and yes they have them

On first impressions of seeing the kit for the first time i was more than happy for it to be fitted to my

, the quality of the product was excellent, and its black which ofcourse i luvvvvv stealth and all that

PS the DS Samco Hoses were not as yet ready in "Black" so as you will see from the pics i opted for plain Samco ones without the DS logo.
So let me give you a run down of the mods i have on my car.
Mongoose turbo down pipe
Piper De Cat
Piper cat back
Radtech Intercooler
K+N GennII
Eisbach lowering springs, not that it matters just wanted to say i had them

Running DS Normally on Mod B but on arriving at DS i forgot i had my ST running on DSCI, But read on as there are comparisons!!
With the above mods i had the following results at the Puma Build RR Day:
253.2bhp Sorry i dont have the torque figures

At Rick Woods i had:
287.3bhp
359.8lbft
Both of tha above run using Mod B And BP Ultimate fuel.
So on arrival at DS Carl was soon strapping my ST down on the rollers and we ran it, then fitted the DS kit and this was the result
1st hit K&N Gen2 + Dsci map* 276.2 bhp / 340.5 lbft torque
1st hit DSCI Induction + Dsci map* 293.3 bhp / 351.7 lbft torque
Increase with dsci Ind Kit and DSCI remap over K&N Gen 2 with DSCI remap = 17.1bhp / 11.2 lbft torque
*Final hit ModB + DSCI Induction Kit* 300.1 bhp / 343.6 lbft torque
*1st hit K&N Gen2 Dsci* 276.2 bhp / 340.5 lbft torque
Increase with dsci Ind Kit and ModB remap over K&N Gen 2 with DSCI remap = 23.9bhp / 3.1 lbft torque
All of the above figures were taken within a matter of 3 hours so comparisons should be excellent.
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The fitment is excellent, the product, so far i cant fault it, the sound that its gives off!!! well let me just say i love my ST even more now

Is it worth £295? errrr!!!

yep:

Now before you all start firing techno questions at me dont bother as i dont have the answers

but im sure Jared and his team will be happy to answer them for you

Few more savoury pics from the day

Not the best of pics

Nearly done

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The filter on the left is from my old K+N
The one on the right is the new DS version.
The one in the middle is off a Scania i think :lol
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Relocation of the ECU Very nice snug and tight fit and away from any heat, added bonus!!
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The Filter sits higher than the K+N one so water probs wont be a problem, not that i had any with the K+N!
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All Done

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Many thanks to Jared, Danny and Carl

Thanks for looking
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Chris
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Yesterday, 10:10 PM Last post by: evlarad |
Hi all,
Sorry - totally pointless post, but the DS Induction Kit has just been ordered from those lovely lads at DS!!

Gonna wait until it arrives and I can look through all the bits and read the instructions before I decide whether I will fit it, or get someone who has held a spanner before to do it!!
Man alive, I haven't been this excited since the Optimus Prime transformer toy came out in time for Christmas 1984......

<MASSIVE GRIN!!>
Dave
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Yesterday, 04:03 PM Last post by: seanyb |
Just been reading the latest Fast Ford mag in Tesco and they have an IC test going on - granted, it's not for an ST but an IC is an IC in my eyes.
Pro Alloy came first, but only just beating Airtec. Forge and Pace were third and forth.
So why do people knock the Airtec on here? Is it purely because it's much cheaper, so everyone assumes it must be no good? I have read about welds before and that the Airtec isn't the best looking, but do looks matter in reality?
The Airtec is good value, so have there been any test on an ST with real figures?
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7th January 2009 - 10:06 PM Last post by: john-st3 |
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7th January 2009 - 07:25 PM Last post by: ruthless |
Any 1 running the k&N cais notice a strange whistling sound everytime you touch the gas pedal? There has always been the usual suction noise from fitting but i'm not sure what the whistling is,,like a kettle boiling sound...Really doing my head in now I know it's there lol

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7th January 2009 - 07:17 PM Last post by: RIK |
Hi everybody!
I was browsing on the net earlier tonight and visited GGR's website and I found this:
GGR Focus ST330 Sound interesting
Dosen't list a price for the conversion on the site (well I cant find it!)
But i'll speak to them tomorrow and let you know the full price.
AJ
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7th January 2009 - 02:10 PM Last post by: Therion |
It was so written, that i would complete the 1st major part of my car's tuning late this year (brakes,suspension,ICE, are for later on when i'll have money again

). I finally have the equipment and time, so i started fitting and testing and (most importantly

) taking pictures and videos
Ok this is the list :
1 Ford Focus ST (build March 2007,Germany) :
CHECK!1 Pro Alloy intercooler (black so it wont stand out as the grills are also painted black(er) ) :
CHECK! 1 Dreamscience CAIS :
awaiting fitting1 Dreamscience Strategem DUO :
CHECK! (hasnt been used on the car yet)
1 Primary Designs full exhaust (2.75 inch all the way to the tips which are 4 inch) :
CHECK!1 Samco coolant+turbo hoses set (orange) :
awaiting fitting1 kidney (to pay for all this, plus the gas i will have to use with it for the next month

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awaiting extractionDue to the holidays i'm not sure when i will have the rest of the equipment installed. Idealy before the year changes.
I am currently doing some tests on the road with
Racelogic's Performance Box. I am trying to keep weight and conditions aproximately constant, and measure the car as it is upgraded. For example :
1. Pro Alloy IC (this is the starting point as the IC was already fitted)
2. Pro Alloy IC + Primary Designs exhaust
3. Pro Alloy IC + Primary Designs exhaust + DS Strategem (probably Race+, DSCI)
4. Pro Alloy IC + Primary Designs exhaust + Dreamscience CAIS
5. Pro Alloy IC + Primary Designs exhaust + Dreamscience CAIS + DS Strategem (probably Race+, DSCI, Mod B)
Apart from timings the device can do an estimation of power for the car, so i need to figure out the weight as accurately as possible. This is why i was asking for the exact kurb weight, and whether it includes a full tank of gas, a driver, or a combination of those. I have the 5door ST, and 2 people + equipment (160 Kg), plus the gas i have in (which is now at about 2/3 full). Anyone who knows what Ford includes as the 5D car's weight, is welcome to help
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I'm estimating (with about half a tank of gas) that we're around 1600Kg.
Hopefully , by the end, i will :
a. have concluded which programm to keep
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b. have found out how much of a difference some of the upgrades do (aproximately)
c. have some images and videos so anyone can see and listen, and make their own minds (there is only one good video of the DS CAIS, and currently none of the Primary Designs exhaust, so i hope i can help).
wish me luck ! (or perish under my curses !! mmmuuaahahahahahaha ! ....uhm...er....

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7th January 2009 - 05:40 AM Last post by: Volvo man |
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6th January 2009 - 11:09 PM Last post by: troy45 |
I'm thinking about putting a decat pipe onto my exhaust and have been told that if you run a bluefin stage 3 it wont bring the light on. Has anybody got this combination running on there car. I'm told a decat pipe will make the car load is that true ie just how load. I dont have a downpipe yet so will a decat be worth it for power increase. My other mods are K&N high flow filter, ecu spacer, radtec intercooler and bluefin stage 3.....